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Hi. I'm in western Canada and have been gardening most of my life. Veggies, small fruit (berries), tree nuts & fruit, ornamental trees and shrubs, native trees, flowers, etc. I know a lot about "90% perspiration and 10% inspiration", and also about learning principles and techniques from other people, from books, and from trial & error. Having said this, ...
I wonder what any and all of you may think about a "green thumb" being related to personal energy? A quality within the gardener as a person??
Please let me know your thoughts and observations...
Tanemon
I wonder what any and all of you may think about a "green thumb" being related to personal energy? A quality within the gardener as a person??
Please let me know your thoughts and observations...
Tanemon
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Re: Green thumb as a personal-energy topic?
Wed, January 23, 2008 - 6:37 PMI do believe you have to have the energy to do gardening in a large environment. But I know a lot of people who are happy with container and windowbox gardens. I love to dig , chose plants, plant and sometimes weed. I could use some more energy sometimes though, especially as I get older. -
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Re: Green thumb as a personal-energy topic?
Fri, February 8, 2008 - 9:24 AMHi...
"I do believe you have to have the energy to do gardening in a large environment. But I know a lot of people who are happy with container and windowbox gardens. I love to dig , chose plants, plant and sometimes weed. I could use some more energy sometimes though, especially as I get older." ... Good point, and I agree with you. But that sort of 'energy' isn't quite what I had in mind.
I meant "energy" more in terms of what might be called an aura or 'personal exudation' - something within the gardener that is shared with the plants and/or soil. Some people grow gardens that seem to transcend good soil practices, good plant placement, good watering, etc. Real vivacity and abundance can be seen in the results. And it shows in their houseplants, too.
I'm not naive in putting this question forward. I was introduced to gardening as a child, and I have nearly 30 years of experience, including much reading. I know about soil composition, pH, soil amendments, weeding, rotation, pruning, etc, etc. I'm talking about something that goes beyond technique and 'head knowledge'.
Just to clarify...
All the best...
Tanemon
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Re: Green thumb as a personal-energy topic?
Sat, February 9, 2008 - 10:31 AMI think there are some people who just "get" plants better than others. There are those who not only provide what the plants need, but who also love and care for their plants and really keep an eye on them and always notice subtle changes. Maybe certain qualities that these people have are patience, reliability, tenderness. They are growing plants not just for the benefits of what the plants provide, but because they love caring for green, growing things. -
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Re: Green thumb as a personal-energy topic?
Tue, February 12, 2008 - 11:08 AMYes, I believe you're right about the sensitivity to green, growing things. Noticing subtle changes would be a part of that.
I also tend to think there can be an energy sharing or energy transfer - between some people and plants.
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Re: Green thumb as a personal-energy topic?
Tue, February 19, 2008 - 11:23 AMi would definitely agree about an energy sharing or transfer....i wouldnt know exactly what to call it.but yes, there is definitely something taking place. i know that i can spend hours in my "garden" area. I have had huge vegetable gardens and flower gardens, but now, living in an apartment, i have the small front area of the house to work on. it was always the same, in my larger gardens or in my little gardens.
no matter how i feel, when i start garden i get a sense of peace, or possibility, that i am taking part in something sacred, or something beyond me. its just this really special feeling, and i know it sounds corny or kooky. i feel like i am giving a part of myself to the plant. just my energy & heart. not so much in a "they depend on me" kinda of way, though. its a free kind of giving. sometimes i just stand near my garden and feel like i am giving them me, and i can take from them. i dont even have to be digging or anything.
i dont now... its hard to explain what i mean exactly. but THERE IS a special connection of some kind between the plant and animal world.
on a related note, check out this article i read recently:
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Re: Green thumb as a personal-energy topic?
Mon, March 10, 2008 - 6:41 PMI agree with the energy transfer idea. I've been relatively successful with plants since I was young, and have been thus labeled with the "green thumb" I carry with me now a knowledge of rotations, watering, light requirements, the science of gardening. But there really is more than that. Often times just spending time with plants, sitting near them, focusing on them, or being around them helps both them and me. Kooky or not, I do believe it works, and possibly someday science will catch up to the flow of energy in that realm, much like the discovery of viruses under microscopes introduced a whole new world. If not, that's cool too, I'll still hold the faith! :) -
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Re: Green thumb as a personal-energy topic?
Sat, March 15, 2008 - 9:44 AMInteresting to hear from you about this, Walking. Any ideas about increasing a person's sensitivity to plants & plant energies? Or about a more mutually supportive exchange between plants & people?
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Sat, March 15, 2008 - 7:28 PMI have a natural need to provide for my child. I love plants and nature. I started my little organic garden 2 years ago - not knowing what the heck I was doing. Last year was better than the first. I believe a "Green Thumb" goes along with experience and personal interest in plants them selves. I am going to place crystals in my garden this year and even though I know that my garden will be more productive than in past years; I am going to embrace the warm power that beautiful crystal energy can add to my knowledge. People love plants = plants love people! -
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Re: Green thumb as a personal-energy topic?
Fri, March 21, 2008 - 11:38 AMI believe that the plants (which are alive and breathing) feel our love and the positive energy we project to them. The more you love caring for your plants, the more love (positive energy) the plants feel. I totally believe they feel that, and respond to it as well.
Mine also like it when I talk to them. :)
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Re: Green thumb as a personal-energy topic?
Wed, April 2, 2008 - 7:18 PMmy question would be is the individuals personal energy effecting the growth of the plants or is it that the individual does a particularly competent job in their gardening. Seems like a scientific experiment could be done on this quite easily - a series of controlled tests wherein different individuals work plots seperate but next to one another and use all the exact same technique in every way managable. Possibly you could include individuals somehow identified as having an especially productive green thumb aura. Play that through enough growth cycles and if there is something to this green thumb theory - which I suspect there is - then it should show up clear enough.
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Re: Green thumb as a personal-energy topic?
Wed, June 4, 2008 - 10:43 PMI've often wondered about this. Although I've wondered if there was perhaps a genetic component. If we come from hunter-gatherer groups of people it would make sense that there would be some selection for people who could notice if a plant was healthy and if it wasn't they would be driven to do something about it. The reward was food for yourself and potentially future generations. If you couldn't grow enough food to survive or feed your kids...you didn't live long enough to HAVE kids. Another example of "the selfish gene". Perhaps instinct plays a role as well. In the spring I am absolutely DRIVEN to do some sort of gardening. I've observed this drive in other people as well. They comment on being "itchy" or "impatient" to the point where they feel almost mentally, or emotionally disturbed if they are prevented from working with or being around plants. -
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Re: Green thumb as a personal-energy topic?
Thu, June 5, 2008 - 7:06 AMInteresting thoughts, Joe. Yeah, I'm one of those people who would feel out of balance if I were not involved with plants in the spring. So every spring (and on through fall, in certain definite ways) I'm planting or nurturing annual veggies, and berry bushes, not to mention native, fruit, ornamental, and shade trees... and vines.
The prehistoric timeline has it that early agriculture developed very slowly out of the hunter-gatherer way of life. And like you're suggesting, there must have been individuals who were especially sensitive on several levels to healthy (and not so healthy) plants. I feel there must have been a complex sharing of life-force going on, between plants and humans (an also between animals and humans).
Tanemon
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Re: Green thumb as a personal-energy topic?
Thu, June 5, 2008 - 7:31 PMAs far as personal energy I would say that I gain energy from gardening or being around plants that I have nurtured and hopefully I "give" at least as much as I get. Although I feel more replenished when I'm alone with plants. Do other people in this group feel depleted by people and energized by plants and nature? I am struck by how much less "energy" I notice when in big cities. I know that I would have difficulties living in a less green place than Western Washington. Although I'm certain that anywhere I lived would "become" more green by my efforts after living there for a while.
